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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Great find. Thanks.

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Man-i's avatar

they are just rec this b/c it wont work in late stage covid, by then its too late. So then pfixer and others can grandstand and say "you see HCQ doesnt work"

These people are so evil

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Ashmedai's avatar

There is decent evidence of some efficacy for late stage covid (more than the 19% weighed down by GIGO studies in C19Early.com)

There was a pretty big one, retrospective analysis of patients in NYC hospitals that found those treated in ICU with HCQ were somewhere in the 30's% less likely to die.

Anyway, I don't think that anyone is looking to Pfizer PDF for treatment advice, they just follow NIH protocol etc. If I had to guess, I'd wager that this was written by legit doc/scientists, possibly before it became political, and nobody ever looks at these things anyways so it just stayed there.

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Man-i's avatar

interesting But wasnt there those studies where they used toxic high doese of HCQ and Harvey Risch , MD called these out as being rigged . The high doses were toxic and most of the patients died and this lead the CDC to issue these "warnings" about HCQ as being cardio toxic and not approve it for covid. It was pure evil and designed as a smear campaign to discredit early effective treatment with HCQ

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Ashmedai's avatar

Yes, it was the toxic dosing of patients many of whom were practically on death's door that sabotaged HCQ. (Using late stage patients since there will be less efficacy makes it easier to hide the signal or rig it outright)

But when dosed normally, as Pfizer alleges, HCQ has some efficacy.

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ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

When the Upper Respiratory symptoms appear, the standard treatment for them usually stops Covid dead. And without Steroids or Cortisones. Which Diabetics and Glaucoma patients can't take. We had them in Dec 2019. I never had jabs, hub had 1 J/J developed heart issues beyond his norm. Cardio who takes months to get into had a full work up done in 4 days. Stress. But a routine Primary done EKG picked up the elusive PRE-BEAT condition. Magnesium Citrate was added to his meds.

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Man-i's avatar

yeah but this was know for a decade. why are they coming out with this now.

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ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

It is getting more exposure, especially since the 3-4 jabbed high profile keep getting Covid, and 4 jabbed KING FAUCET showed up with Covid. KARMA.

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

And if nobody draws attention to it, Pfizer can say they did due diligence, its not their fault nobody paid attention...blah..blah ad nauseum..

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pandelis's avatar

good guess i would say ...

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HillsideFarmer's avatar

Milfy, that is exactly what I'm thinking, too.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

FYI,

A few months ago, Queensland Australia Dept of Health reversed its ban on using HCQ to treat c19. However, I think the ban is still in place in the rest of Australia.

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Kirsten's avatar

Wow, nothing surprises me anymore these days.

Thanks for pressing on the link you weren't supposed to. 😄👍🏼

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Ashmedai's avatar

my pleasure :)

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The Green Hornet's avatar

They’re laughing at us.

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Ashmedai's avatar

Yup

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Thanks. Better late than never? I’m still in shock the heavy doses approved for children in America.

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pandelis's avatar

if you are in shock, you have no idea with what you are dealing with ... this is not even the appetizers ... this is just being handled the menu to look at ... long way to go ...

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

That’s part of why I’m shocked. The blatant disregard for human life. I’ve been aware of much & levels of corruption for a while. I’d be too depressed to function if I didn’t have faith in Jesus & God. & It’s only getting crazier ~~~~

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joe stuerzl 85's avatar

May I change the subject for a moment ,as this morning I paid $ 2.60 - a liter for diesel .That is $ 10.40 a gallon .in Vancouver Canada .If you plan a vacation in the white north bring lots of money. And now I need a big booster from my German schnaps Bottle .Sorry for the interruption .

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Why we’ve been trying to hoard dry goods etc, it’s only going to get worse before it turns around.

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James Lyons-Weiler, PhD's avatar

Great find.

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Ashmedai's avatar

That's high praise coming from you, thanks!!

I am a huge fan of your work. One of the best straightforward analysts of statistics, among other things. You did a marvelous job debating the author of the absurd Bangladesh mask study. Eug P from NIH (who I have gotten to know a bit & who gave me the material for the article I wrote on the myriad "enhancements" of the spike peptide surrounding the Furin Site) thinks very highly of you.

I'm hoping to be able to find time to take a few of your IPAK courses too.

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KC's avatar

Bless you for all your hard work.

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Ashmedai's avatar

Amen :))

Thanks

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

Thanks. I will inform my 120+ unrequited Aussie penpals anon.

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Jean James's avatar

This is great info! Thanks for sharing.

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pandelis's avatar

nice touch ... i clicked of course despite not being in the trusted circle so to speak :-)

funny thing they tell you, dont tell anybody else ... or else ...

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Ashmedai's avatar

Look, if twitter is promoting the tweet, sorry but they can't say "don't click on the link we are shoving in your face" 😄😄

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John Droz's avatar

Not sure what type of spreadsheet you are building, but here is one of mine related to HCQ, etc: <https://c19science.info/FDA_Drug_Approvals2.htm>.

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ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

VEKLURY - remdesivir 2020 NO 2 YEAR OLD DRUG IS CALLED BY IT'S GENERIC CHEMICAL NAME, THAT TAKES GOING OFF PATENT. STROMECTOL- Ivermectin . 1997 PLAQUENIL - Hydroxychloroquine 1955. USE THE RIGHT WORDS CHEMICAL NAMES WERE TO CONFUSE THE MEDICALLY IGNORANT, PLAQUENIL IS STILL THE MOST PRESCRIBED RA/LUPUS DRUG ON THE MARKET. STROMECOL IS THIRD WORLD OTC. Tennessee just made it OTC.

Most insterting most drugs are CRAP and HARMFUL. METFORMIN IS ONE OF THE WORSE, IT DOESN'T WORK. Ask Robert Yoho Ret. MD, author of BUTCHERED BY HEALTHCARE, GOVERNMENT AND PHARMA. Best $5 bucks on Kindle you can spend. It will give you the base to read and understand RFK JR, DEM BIASED, BUT FACTUAL FAUCI. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/bombshell-oxford-study-less-6-approved-medical-drugs-backed-high-quality-evidence-support-benefits-harms-significantly-underreported-across-board/

Harvard study

https://rickjaffeesq.com/2021/02/19/what-the-heck-is-the-harvard-pilgrim-study-and-did-it-really-say-that-about-the-underreporting-of-vaccine-adverse-events/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8437699/

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Sol H's avatar

Who would've thought, right? 😂

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Ashmedai's avatar

Thank G-D for sevencells.com

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