The moral & philosophical justification for making Nazi comparisons in the context of characterizing the policies and weltanschauung of the covid pandemic era
The primary purpose of this article was to provide a moral & philosophical justification for using Nazi comparisons in the context of characterizing the policies and weltanschauung of covid pandemic era.
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 1:9
Stunning Parallels Between COVID Measures and Nazi Germany
My personal frustration with this has always been, what was the point of teaching people about these tragedies if everyone is to be expected to just watch them happen?!
I am very sympathetic to having a high threshold for appropriate comparisons...but I outright reject the idea that making those comparisons is inherently wrong.
I like the way Brett Weinstein phrases it "When we have to start reaching into those dark chapters in history to describe things going on today, we have already gone too far."
It amazes me how far Germany got with WW2 and the Holocaust. People were so brainwashed into accepting war and the murder of millions. The entire world stuck their collective heads in the sand.
Are we to assume that what has been going on for decades (or at least planned over decades) that has involved covid 19 and previous fake pandemics, as well as some world-wide design called "The Great Reset, the WHO and UN planning a one world government, and the use of drugs that have not been thoroughly tested (mRNA gene therapy injections) to perhaps kill off humans will all be much milder actions than what Germany pulled off in the 1930's-40's?
Trust nothing and the comparisons are reasonable since we have that history in place to use as such. What if the current drive to control the world by one faction ends up being far worse than the Holocaust? Will we then fault ourselves for not taking a closer look at what was happening right under our noses? By then, billions might be dead.
Fascism reborn and with more tech and bugs at their disposal. With this, Hitler would never have needed gas chambers. He could've infected and/or injected everyone.
The Holocaust is right up there in the top ten atrocities ever. Two modern atrocities that exceed the Holocaust in human terms is the experience with Stalin in Russia where it is estimated 40M civilians were exterminated. Also in the great separation of India from colonial rule the formation of Pakistan resulted in tens of millions killed. There are numerous episodes in antiquity which are of similar scale. The greatest atrocity on record is the tyranny under Chairman Mao. Most estimates are that in excess of 80M humans were exterminated.
This touches on something that's been rattling around in my head for a while - I wonder if i can succinctly and cohesively communicate it yet...
Within the domain of near-contemporary political debate, the Nazis are not primarily a historical entity, they are a core mythos of the West's post-WWII zeitgeist. In general, I think it is fine (and unavoidable) that historical entities are used to embody more complex interpretive frameworks, because the latter are not conducive to everyday, surface level discussion. My concern specifically with the overused comparison of contemporary political entities to the Nazis are:
(1) As events move further into the past, the motifs surrounding them do not "fit" as well into the contemporary political landscape.
(2) I think we're reaching a point where the younger generations do not feel a strong connection to the post-WWII zeitgeist. Firstly, zoomers and younger millenials did not grow up with living WWII-era veterans passing down firsthand experience and knowledge. Secondly, a large contingent of the West's modern younger population grew up outside of the Western cultural sphere. They will not broadly share the same instinctive reaction to "Nazi" common to those who did.
So the Nazis (and the post-WWII zeitgeist in general) exist at an awkward point in history where I don't think the specifics of the historical entity align with how they're employed in the contemporary political landscape, but they're not far enough in the past to be digested down into a more generalized cultural symbol. We're reaching a turning point where accusations of Nazism are usually extremely reductive and usually employed as lame slander to associate some party with an increasingly vague identity of "enemy". At the same time, through overuse and aging of the historical narrative, increasingly more of the population care increasingly less about being called a "Nazi".
I don't think we can expect people in general to stop referring to oversimplified symbolism in their polemics, but - within the domain of surface level political discussion - if you're informed enough to consider whether using Nazi comparisons are warranted, you're probably intelligent enough to present a better argument. The English language has plenty of more accurate words. Finally, obviously in cases where a clear comparison can be made to historical Nazism, a clear comparison is warranted.
What we're dealing with now is far worse in terms of scale and magnitude and will likely result in over one billion dead within 15 yrs (food shortages, vaccine induced disease, infertility, wars, etc).
It seems to me that the least we can do, having read the lessons of the Holocaust, is to have the courage to call out the parallels. What an insult to all who died to see it happening again and say nothing.
I think the Nazi comparisons are very apt. They have the camps set up. In Germany the camps were secret, here they are “green zones” or “FEMA camps”, under the guise of protecting public health.
Who knows what gasses they might use. There is video footage of a man screaming hysterically at an Australian camp “you are NOT holding me here another night” and his “Stanford prison experiment”-type guard then threatens to gas him. I also saw some of these units under construction with a “gas intake” pipe installed.
You are correct of course that the term Nazi has been rendered useless by the Left, but to those who can think clearly the parallels are obvious.
No single group “owns” the Nazis! Jews and their part of the Holocaust were just one group whom the Nazis attempted to “exterminate”. Gays, Gypsies, invalids, mentally ill, the disabled, Communists, the “racially inferior” of all types were their as well. 8 million non Jewish Germans who represented members of the 29 OTHER political parties and anyone who spoke out against their tyranny in Weimar Germany were “exterminated” as well.. Nazism/fascism was and is an equal opportunity monster which was created by the aristocracy at the turn of the 20th Century to restore the waning power of monarchy and the aristocratic elite it served for thousands of years! Now the nouveau riche like Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Brin and the Nazi trained Klaus Schwab of WEF with Central bankers have decided to reinstate it… we have every right to make the comparison since they are ACTUALLY running the show! Ironically American Jews seem to be the most credulous of all about this! They need to Check out Holocaust survivor Vera Sharov who has been vociferously warning the World of their return for two years now! Madeleine Albright wrote a book about the return of fascism several years ago and Dr Naomi Wolf predicted it 10 years back!!
You make some good points but why do people talk about The Holocaust when there were many holocaust experiences at the hands of the Nazis, involving Jews, Christians, Muslims and no doubt atheists and tens of millions died for reasons other than religion as it was in the case of the Jews?
More critical, holocausts litter human history, past and present, and the Jewish experience during the Second World War was not the first, not the last and not even the worst. It has been turned into a propaganda tool to seek to justify the colonial crime of occupying Palestine in the name of Jews.
By all means, cite holocaust and Nazis but talk about all of them equally. Dying for one's religion does not involve greater suffering than dying for one's race like the Slavs or one's politics.
The primary purpose of this article was to provide a moral & philosophical justification for using Nazi comparisons in the context of characterizing the policies and weltanschauung of covid pandemic era.
With 16 million killed for profit, it is an entirely appropriate comparison.
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 1:9
Stunning Parallels Between COVID Measures and Nazi Germany
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/stunning-parallels-between-covid
Modern day Inquisition
"…the SS organization had been constituted according to the principles of the Jesuit Order."- Edmond Paris, The Secret History of the Jesuits, p. 164.
The Hidden History of the Revived Roman Empire
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-hidden-history-of-the-revived
My personal frustration with this has always been, what was the point of teaching people about these tragedies if everyone is to be expected to just watch them happen?!
I am very sympathetic to having a high threshold for appropriate comparisons...but I outright reject the idea that making those comparisons is inherently wrong.
I like the way Brett Weinstein phrases it "When we have to start reaching into those dark chapters in history to describe things going on today, we have already gone too far."
It amazes me how far Germany got with WW2 and the Holocaust. People were so brainwashed into accepting war and the murder of millions. The entire world stuck their collective heads in the sand.
Are we to assume that what has been going on for decades (or at least planned over decades) that has involved covid 19 and previous fake pandemics, as well as some world-wide design called "The Great Reset, the WHO and UN planning a one world government, and the use of drugs that have not been thoroughly tested (mRNA gene therapy injections) to perhaps kill off humans will all be much milder actions than what Germany pulled off in the 1930's-40's?
Trust nothing and the comparisons are reasonable since we have that history in place to use as such. What if the current drive to control the world by one faction ends up being far worse than the Holocaust? Will we then fault ourselves for not taking a closer look at what was happening right under our noses? By then, billions might be dead.
Fascism reborn and with more tech and bugs at their disposal. With this, Hitler would never have needed gas chambers. He could've infected and/or injected everyone.
The Holocaust is right up there in the top ten atrocities ever. Two modern atrocities that exceed the Holocaust in human terms is the experience with Stalin in Russia where it is estimated 40M civilians were exterminated. Also in the great separation of India from colonial rule the formation of Pakistan resulted in tens of millions killed. There are numerous episodes in antiquity which are of similar scale. The greatest atrocity on record is the tyranny under Chairman Mao. Most estimates are that in excess of 80M humans were exterminated.
Agreed! https://dangerousdocs.substack.com/p/from-vaccine-mandates-to-genocide-b85
This touches on something that's been rattling around in my head for a while - I wonder if i can succinctly and cohesively communicate it yet...
Within the domain of near-contemporary political debate, the Nazis are not primarily a historical entity, they are a core mythos of the West's post-WWII zeitgeist. In general, I think it is fine (and unavoidable) that historical entities are used to embody more complex interpretive frameworks, because the latter are not conducive to everyday, surface level discussion. My concern specifically with the overused comparison of contemporary political entities to the Nazis are:
(1) As events move further into the past, the motifs surrounding them do not "fit" as well into the contemporary political landscape.
(2) I think we're reaching a point where the younger generations do not feel a strong connection to the post-WWII zeitgeist. Firstly, zoomers and younger millenials did not grow up with living WWII-era veterans passing down firsthand experience and knowledge. Secondly, a large contingent of the West's modern younger population grew up outside of the Western cultural sphere. They will not broadly share the same instinctive reaction to "Nazi" common to those who did.
So the Nazis (and the post-WWII zeitgeist in general) exist at an awkward point in history where I don't think the specifics of the historical entity align with how they're employed in the contemporary political landscape, but they're not far enough in the past to be digested down into a more generalized cultural symbol. We're reaching a turning point where accusations of Nazism are usually extremely reductive and usually employed as lame slander to associate some party with an increasingly vague identity of "enemy". At the same time, through overuse and aging of the historical narrative, increasingly more of the population care increasingly less about being called a "Nazi".
I don't think we can expect people in general to stop referring to oversimplified symbolism in their polemics, but - within the domain of surface level political discussion - if you're informed enough to consider whether using Nazi comparisons are warranted, you're probably intelligent enough to present a better argument. The English language has plenty of more accurate words. Finally, obviously in cases where a clear comparison can be made to historical Nazism, a clear comparison is warranted.
What we're dealing with now is far worse in terms of scale and magnitude and will likely result in over one billion dead within 15 yrs (food shortages, vaccine induced disease, infertility, wars, etc).
It seems to me that the least we can do, having read the lessons of the Holocaust, is to have the courage to call out the parallels. What an insult to all who died to see it happening again and say nothing.
I think the Nazi comparisons are very apt. They have the camps set up. In Germany the camps were secret, here they are “green zones” or “FEMA camps”, under the guise of protecting public health.
Who knows what gasses they might use. There is video footage of a man screaming hysterically at an Australian camp “you are NOT holding me here another night” and his “Stanford prison experiment”-type guard then threatens to gas him. I also saw some of these units under construction with a “gas intake” pipe installed.
You are correct of course that the term Nazi has been rendered useless by the Left, but to those who can think clearly the parallels are obvious.
No single group “owns” the Nazis! Jews and their part of the Holocaust were just one group whom the Nazis attempted to “exterminate”. Gays, Gypsies, invalids, mentally ill, the disabled, Communists, the “racially inferior” of all types were their as well. 8 million non Jewish Germans who represented members of the 29 OTHER political parties and anyone who spoke out against their tyranny in Weimar Germany were “exterminated” as well.. Nazism/fascism was and is an equal opportunity monster which was created by the aristocracy at the turn of the 20th Century to restore the waning power of monarchy and the aristocratic elite it served for thousands of years! Now the nouveau riche like Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Brin and the Nazi trained Klaus Schwab of WEF with Central bankers have decided to reinstate it… we have every right to make the comparison since they are ACTUALLY running the show! Ironically American Jews seem to be the most credulous of all about this! They need to Check out Holocaust survivor Vera Sharov who has been vociferously warning the World of their return for two years now! Madeleine Albright wrote a book about the return of fascism several years ago and Dr Naomi Wolf predicted it 10 years back!!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/resist-wake-up-stop-obeying-holocaust-survivor-draws-parallels-in-current-society-to-nazi-germany_4632304.html
You make some good points but why do people talk about The Holocaust when there were many holocaust experiences at the hands of the Nazis, involving Jews, Christians, Muslims and no doubt atheists and tens of millions died for reasons other than religion as it was in the case of the Jews?
More critical, holocausts litter human history, past and present, and the Jewish experience during the Second World War was not the first, not the last and not even the worst. It has been turned into a propaganda tool to seek to justify the colonial crime of occupying Palestine in the name of Jews.
By all means, cite holocaust and Nazis but talk about all of them equally. Dying for one's religion does not involve greater suffering than dying for one's race like the Slavs or one's politics.
I think that what people use as comparison is adequate for them. It's their perception of the reality.
Mao killed at least 60 M. That's not even counting the girls that were left to die of hunger (girls were considered a burden on the family).
What if the financiers/political/religious powers behind Mao, were the same as those behind Hitler.
They always finance both sides.
Then...